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	<title>Comments on: Why Do I Hate Eclipse?</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff S.</title>
		<link>http://sebastien-arbogast.com/2009/07/18/why-do-i-hate-eclipse/comment-page-1/#comment-2569</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen to this article.  I&#039;ve used multiple IDEs in different languages and am in the same boat.  Every time I have to go back to eclipse, I&#039;m hoping that they have fixed the bugs and made the UI better, but after 10 years they still have the same garbage.  Just like you, you try to tell a Java dev that eclipse is a joke, but they just don&#039;t get it.  They learned how to use it in school and that&#039;s all they know.  It takes me 10 times as long to get it all setup, then if you change anything it breaks your setup and you have to do it all over again. Bah.  It&#039;s trying to be too much and do everything, then on top of that there are multiple flavors, so it makes it a pain to work with someone else that is sporting a different version.  Come on.  I&#039;m all for open source, but this thing is out of control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to this article.  I&#8217;ve used multiple IDEs in different languages and am in the same boat.  Every time I have to go back to eclipse, I&#8217;m hoping that they have fixed the bugs and made the UI better, but after 10 years they still have the same garbage.  Just like you, you try to tell a Java dev that eclipse is a joke, but they just don&#8217;t get it.  They learned how to use it in school and that&#8217;s all they know.  It takes me 10 times as long to get it all setup, then if you change anything it breaks your setup and you have to do it all over again. Bah.  It&#8217;s trying to be too much and do everything, then on top of that there are multiple flavors, so it makes it a pain to work with someone else that is sporting a different version.  Come on.  I&#8217;m all for open source, but this thing is out of control.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://sebastien-arbogast.com/2009/07/18/why-do-i-hate-eclipse/comment-page-1/#comment-2564</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely hate the lack of customization for Eclipse. I want my step into/step over/etc debug buttons on their own special toolbar. But mostly, I WANT NORMAL TABS. I hated JBuilder because I couldn&#039;t ctrl-tab between open source files... but at least JBuilder had real tabs. Eclipse shows two or three tabs tops, and then puts the rest into a submenu. And ctrl-tab doesn&#039;t work in Eclipse either!

Also, project files would be nice, big projects NEVER import correctly. 

In short, I miss JBuilder. And seeing how JBuilder was a steaming pile, that says a lot about my opinion of Eclipse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely hate the lack of customization for Eclipse. I want my step into/step over/etc debug buttons on their own special toolbar. But mostly, I WANT NORMAL TABS. I hated JBuilder because I couldn&#8217;t ctrl-tab between open source files&#8230; but at least JBuilder had real tabs. Eclipse shows two or three tabs tops, and then puts the rest into a submenu. And ctrl-tab doesn&#8217;t work in Eclipse either!</p>
<p>Also, project files would be nice, big projects NEVER import correctly. </p>
<p>In short, I miss JBuilder. And seeing how JBuilder was a steaming pile, that says a lot about my opinion of Eclipse.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 22:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go team Eclipse yeah!

For me Eclipse is a POS because the IDE gets in the way of coding and productivity. I see the rest as a matter of personal taste.

Over 1.2Gb just to edit some files. Go team Eclipse yeah!

Many bugs which hinder productivity such as hangs and crashes. Go team Eclipse yeah!

Freeze for over 1min after every save of a file. CTRL-S is my best mate so this really annoys me. Yes I have turned off all the &quot;productivity&quot; boosters such as format on save, org. imports on save etc. Go team Eclipse yeah!

In short Go team Eclipse yeah! You POS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go team Eclipse yeah!</p>
<p>For me Eclipse is a POS because the IDE gets in the way of coding and productivity. I see the rest as a matter of personal taste.</p>
<p>Over 1.2Gb just to edit some files. Go team Eclipse yeah!</p>
<p>Many bugs which hinder productivity such as hangs and crashes. Go team Eclipse yeah!</p>
<p>Freeze for over 1min after every save of a file. CTRL-S is my best mate so this really annoys me. Yes I have turned off all the &#8220;productivity&#8221; boosters such as format on save, org. imports on save etc. Go team Eclipse yeah!</p>
<p>In short Go team Eclipse yeah! You POS!</p>
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		<title>By: Emir Bugra KOKSALAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emir Bugra KOKSALAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hate eclipse becouse i cant install java visual editor :( there is built in editor in netbeans..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hate eclipse becouse i cant install java visual editor :( there is built in editor in netbeans..</p>
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		<title>By: JCLL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JCLL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+ 1 for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+ 1 for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Yi</title>
		<link>http://sebastien-arbogast.com/2009/07/18/why-do-i-hate-eclipse/comment-page-1/#comment-2507</link>
		<dc:creator>Yi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 01:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree m2eclipse is a nightmare. Eclipse itself is not too bad when writing simple programs or academic stuff. However in an enterprise environment with so many modules and pakcages it just couldn&#039;t handle it nicely. I particularly dislike the IDE provided by 3rd party vendors based on Eclipse. They added so many stuff that are useless in most scenarios and use a lot of resources. In Spring Tool Suite sometimes I just open a couple of XML files it can be using more than 1.4GB RAM. There are numerous times I need to wait for more than 30 seconds just by clicking at some empty space in the editor and the IDE says no response. Moreover, sometimes the class issues which seems so obvious in command line can take half a day to resolve in Eclipse IDE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree m2eclipse is a nightmare. Eclipse itself is not too bad when writing simple programs or academic stuff. However in an enterprise environment with so many modules and pakcages it just couldn&#8217;t handle it nicely. I particularly dislike the IDE provided by 3rd party vendors based on Eclipse. They added so many stuff that are useless in most scenarios and use a lot of resources. In Spring Tool Suite sometimes I just open a couple of XML files it can be using more than 1.4GB RAM. There are numerous times I need to wait for more than 30 seconds just by clicking at some empty space in the editor and the IDE says no response. Moreover, sometimes the class issues which seems so obvious in command line can take half a day to resolve in Eclipse IDE.</p>
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		<title>By: Monte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate ECLIPSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

IntelliJ IDEA FOR THE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate ECLIPSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </p>
<p>IntelliJ IDEA FOR THE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: John Strickler</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Strickler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 20:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with all of the previous posters who said, in essence &quot;Eclipse is a P.O.S&quot;. I agree especially with the comment that it&#039;s an anti-tool. I have used Visual Studio, MonoDevelop, Komodo Edit, and they all let me create a project and be coding within a few minutes. I&#039;ve spent untold hours trying to grok Eclipse, and I still run into weird stuff I can&#039;t figure out. Case in point: I need to do a class in TDD for people coding in C. They use Eclipse, so I decided to use Eclipse. First of all, I need the CDT version of Eclipse -- no problem. Well, I had to uninstall my current version and re-install the CDT version. Then I needed ECUT, which didn&#039;t install per any of the instructions I found. I finally got it by unzipping the files and stuffing them in the right place manually. I&#039;ve spent most of the weekend trying to get a *simple* 2-3 source file C project set up with unit tests, and have failed miserably. The product, the plugins, the documentation, and everything else are just *painful*. Maybe it&#039;s great for Java, but for Python, Perl, or C not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with all of the previous posters who said, in essence &#8220;Eclipse is a P.O.S&#8221;. I agree especially with the comment that it&#8217;s an anti-tool. I have used Visual Studio, MonoDevelop, Komodo Edit, and they all let me create a project and be coding within a few minutes. I&#8217;ve spent untold hours trying to grok Eclipse, and I still run into weird stuff I can&#8217;t figure out. Case in point: I need to do a class in TDD for people coding in C. They use Eclipse, so I decided to use Eclipse. First of all, I need the CDT version of Eclipse &#8212; no problem. Well, I had to uninstall my current version and re-install the CDT version. Then I needed ECUT, which didn&#8217;t install per any of the instructions I found. I finally got it by unzipping the files and stuffing them in the right place manually. I&#8217;ve spent most of the weekend trying to get a *simple* 2-3 source file C project set up with unit tests, and have failed miserably. The product, the plugins, the documentation, and everything else are just *painful*. Maybe it&#8217;s great for Java, but for Python, Perl, or C not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: magallanes</title>
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		<dc:creator>magallanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 13:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Neil Bartlett 

Sorry but nah, every IDE is far from perfect but Eclipse is specially broken and nobody is patching or trying to solve it.

My experience:

Netbeans :nice, no problem so far.
Intellij :some incompatibilities with jboss.
eclipse :random problem,random compile error, performance issue and several other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Neil Bartlett </p>
<p>Sorry but nah, every IDE is far from perfect but Eclipse is specially broken and nobody is patching or trying to solve it.</p>
<p>My experience:</p>
<p>Netbeans :nice, no problem so far.<br />
Intellij :some incompatibilities with jboss.<br />
eclipse :random problem,random compile error, performance issue and several other.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Bartlett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Bartlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 09:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had the occasional minor issue with Eclipse, but IntelliJ is far worse in my experience. Haven&#039;t spent much time with NetBeans so no comment there.

I can&#039;t help feeling that a part of the problem is resentment towards the market leader. Issues with Eclipse get exaggerated because it&#039;s just so cool to kick Eclipse. Equally bad or worse problems with IntelliJ and NetBeans are brushed under the carpet.

Ah well. Everybody likes to have a little rant now and then, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had the occasional minor issue with Eclipse, but IntelliJ is far worse in my experience. Haven&#8217;t spent much time with NetBeans so no comment there.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help feeling that a part of the problem is resentment towards the market leader. Issues with Eclipse get exaggerated because it&#8217;s just so cool to kick Eclipse. Equally bad or worse problems with IntelliJ and NetBeans are brushed under the carpet.</p>
<p>Ah well. Everybody likes to have a little rant now and then, I suppose.</p>
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